The problem that I have with Steve is that he doesn't actually refute any of Lewis's arguments. Many people here are saying that Mr. Shives is a great debater who is giving well thought out answers to the book's claims. Sorry, but I don't see it. Saying that you disagree with a point that Lewis makes, is not the same thing as answering that point. CS Lewis took time to set his reasons down on paper. Steve Shives should at least take a similar amount of time to refute those points one by one. As I said, it is not… Read more »
Michael Michael
I didn't see the kitty until i started scrolling the comments. Btw I'll watching all your videos. I'm not an atheist.
Mint Green X-wing
I guess my main question for you is, if Morality isn’t predetermined or outside of us, then why would we develop it or evolve such a thing? As Lewis points out it gets in the way mostly, and we could achieve more as individuals by ignoring it and taking what we want. I don’t think our fear of prison is a good enough answer here and if it is a product of evolution wouldn’t more countries be more of a Dictatorship style of Government?
LLL B.
There is nothing wrong of course with an atheist, or anyone else for that matter, doing a critique on Christian literature. What I find puzzling, is that an atheist would actually want to spend time on something like this.
If I understand it correctly, the concept of G-D is very similar to Santa Claus as far as atheists are concerned. Ergo, why would anyone spend a single nano-second of their life to convince another, that Santa Claus is a fantasy?
The Also Person
Describing morality as a set of laws is a very Judeo-Christian way of viewing things. By contrast, if you read Ancient Greek philosophy, they talk a lot less about following laws and a lot more about pursuing the good or living a good life. I can see the argument that if there's a law, there must be a lawgiver, but I don't see that if there's an objectively good way of life, there must be someone commanding you to have a good life or some superhuman being setting the standards for what that means.
The problem that I have with Steve is that he doesn't actually refute any of Lewis's arguments. Many people here are saying that Mr. Shives is a great debater who is giving well thought out answers to the book's claims. Sorry, but I don't see it. Saying that you disagree with a point that Lewis makes, is not the same thing as answering that point. CS Lewis took time to set his reasons down on paper. Steve Shives should at least take a similar amount of time to refute those points one by one. As I said, it is not… Read more »
I didn't see the kitty until i started scrolling the comments.
Btw I'll watching all your videos. I'm not an atheist.
I guess my main question for you is, if Morality isn’t predetermined or outside of us, then why would we develop it or evolve such a thing? As Lewis points out it gets in the way mostly, and we could achieve more as individuals by ignoring it and taking what we want. I don’t think our fear of prison is a good enough answer here and if it is a product of evolution wouldn’t more countries be more of a Dictatorship style of Government?
There is nothing wrong of course with an atheist, or anyone else for that matter, doing a critique on Christian literature. What I find puzzling, is that an atheist would actually want to spend time on something like this.
If I understand it correctly, the concept of G-D is very similar to Santa Claus as far as atheists are concerned. Ergo, why would anyone spend a single nano-second of their life to convince another, that Santa Claus is a fantasy?
Describing morality as a set of laws is a very Judeo-Christian way of viewing things. By contrast, if you read Ancient Greek philosophy, they talk a lot less about following laws and a lot more about pursuing the good or living a good life. I can see the argument that if there's a law, there must be a lawgiver, but I don't see that if there's an objectively good way of life, there must be someone commanding you to have a good life or some superhuman being setting the standards for what that means.
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